The vast majority of people aren’t limited by their genetics, they’re limited by how hard they want to work. The genetic ceiling isn’t something that 99.99% of people will ever even approach and it’s not the reason you aren’t getting faster.
I agree with this and I feel like this is definitely a hot take. I’ve seen people who didn’t know how to run that were slow as fuck and then through proper training, worth ethic, and diet/health they were able to transform themselves to D1 athletes that are elite athletes. Not like 2-3 examples but half a dozen. The biggest issue is if you aren’t fit or have that work ethic and coaching to understand how to improve then you’re just gonna blame it on genetics or whatever else.
It’s not the ceiling that stops people it’s the basement. I let myself gain way too much weight because depression and such.
Decided to get back into running. Didn’t take very long to get my distances back and the speed started coming in real quick.
Then one day I’m at the gym and am acquaintance I barley talk to was getting ready for a group race. Said he’d seen me jogging recently and it’s just a 5k.
Here’s my fat jiggling ass running with fit people. Obviously small group of middle aged men and women but in came in second out of about 20 of us.
Really demotivated some of the other guys. It’s been months and a few of them just kind of quit coming to the group days.
I’ll probably not push it hard enough to hit the roof for my age but my ceiling is just higher than some people’s and my worst is still higher than some people’s.
I’m calling bullshit. You could use a number like 90% and I’d let it slide but this comment seems kind of naive, or maybe it just reads like a valid inspirational platitude.
For one thing, your “generic ceiling” isn’t some hard cutoff that doesn’t affect you at all until suddenly it blocks you from getting any better. These are gradual effects with soft turn-ons. It’s much more like a constant modifier than a hard cliff, but genetic effects are highly multi-dimensional and don’t just do one thing at one point.
Most people hit a limit because of injuries. These tend to happen because said people are working too hard. What’s the best way to avoid injuries while keeping your fitness high? While you’re not helpless on this front, unfortunately the best answer is to have the right genes.
Additionally, most people could be a lot better at running if they didn’t have to otherwise work for a living, take care of family, and/or whatever else, and could focus exclusively on the sport. But alas, we don’t live in a post-scarcity society, so the pool of people to which that lifestyle is available is vanishingly small, and largely gatekept by… genetics.
You just called bullshit and then pretty much completely agreed with the comment my dude.
What’s the best way to avoid injuries while keeping your fitness high? While you’re not helpless on this front, unfortunately the best answer is to have the right genes.
No, genes don’t matter if you spent the last 2 decades smoking cigarettes in a chair.
If you don’t want to be injured do squats, pushup and pullups every single day for conditioning.
Ask me how many years of effort it took my to make my lanky body injury proof (like 4 years of training and failing).
In high school, I ran until vomiting most days, just to make it to the middle of the pack. I weighed the same as everyone else, ate the same as everyone else, and trained the same as everyone else, but I just barely broke a 7 minute mile. I won’t say that x accomplishment is impossible based on genetics for most people, but it’s certainly a hell of a lot easier for some than others.
The vast majority of people aren’t limited by their genetics, they’re limited by how hard they want to work. The genetic ceiling isn’t something that 99.99% of people will ever even approach and it’s not the reason you aren’t getting faster.
I agree with this and I feel like this is definitely a hot take. I’ve seen people who didn’t know how to run that were slow as fuck and then through proper training, worth ethic, and diet/health they were able to transform themselves to D1 athletes that are elite athletes. Not like 2-3 examples but half a dozen. The biggest issue is if you aren’t fit or have that work ethic and coaching to understand how to improve then you’re just gonna blame it on genetics or whatever else.
It’s not the ceiling that stops people it’s the basement. I let myself gain way too much weight because depression and such.
Decided to get back into running. Didn’t take very long to get my distances back and the speed started coming in real quick.
Then one day I’m at the gym and am acquaintance I barley talk to was getting ready for a group race. Said he’d seen me jogging recently and it’s just a 5k.
Here’s my fat jiggling ass running with fit people. Obviously small group of middle aged men and women but in came in second out of about 20 of us.
Really demotivated some of the other guys. It’s been months and a few of them just kind of quit coming to the group days.
I’ll probably not push it hard enough to hit the roof for my age but my ceiling is just higher than some people’s and my worst is still higher than some people’s.
On the up side I almost look like a runner again.
I’m calling bullshit. You could use a number like 90% and I’d let it slide but this comment seems kind of naive, or maybe it just reads like a valid inspirational platitude.
For one thing, your “generic ceiling” isn’t some hard cutoff that doesn’t affect you at all until suddenly it blocks you from getting any better. These are gradual effects with soft turn-ons. It’s much more like a constant modifier than a hard cliff, but genetic effects are highly multi-dimensional and don’t just do one thing at one point.
Most people hit a limit because of injuries. These tend to happen because said people are working too hard. What’s the best way to avoid injuries while keeping your fitness high? While you’re not helpless on this front, unfortunately the best answer is to have the right genes.
Additionally, most people could be a lot better at running if they didn’t have to otherwise work for a living, take care of family, and/or whatever else, and could focus exclusively on the sport. But alas, we don’t live in a post-scarcity society, so the pool of people to which that lifestyle is available is vanishingly small, and largely gatekept by… genetics.
You just called bullshit and then pretty much completely agreed with the comment my dude.
No, genes don’t matter if you spent the last 2 decades smoking cigarettes in a chair.
If you don’t want to be injured do squats, pushup and pullups every single day for conditioning.
Ask me how many years of effort it took my to make my lanky body injury proof (like 4 years of training and failing).
In high school, I ran until vomiting most days, just to make it to the middle of the pack. I weighed the same as everyone else, ate the same as everyone else, and trained the same as everyone else, but I just barely broke a 7 minute mile. I won’t say that x accomplishment is impossible based on genetics for most people, but it’s certainly a hell of a lot easier for some than others.